We don't really discuss rates and things but I think that range I gave you about fees is about the same for everybody else who does comparable custom designs. I charge 125 dollars for my hourly rate, if it's just billed that way. I think residential is a little lower than that, but not much. It's about 120 dollars, but then after that, there are architects here who are 80 dollars and interns are 75 dollars. They have lots of experience, but they're not licensed, 60 dollars, things like that. Everybody in town is probably like that. It's a good process. It lets people do two things; it lets them test the person they're interviewing. They don't have to hire them yet. They can get ideas, and they can think things through. I think most people would do that. I don't know of anybody who would just say, "I'm not going to let you have my ideas for two hours." I tell people it's a short term marriage and its true because, particularly if it's a major project, a big remodel or a new house or something, we look in every closet. We get to know each other pretty well, and if you're not comfortable, if people are not comfortable with the person they chose, it's too late. So, I really encourage people. That's why I tell people, especially if they come from out-of-town; they're new to the area. Maybe they found us on the website; whatever, I encourage them to look around at other architects. Yes, we want your job. Yes, we want you to love us most, but here's some other people you might want to talk to because you've got to be comfortable. The other thing we do is, in the early stage, the first schematic design; we call it the scheme designing period. We do that hourly. We might set a limit with them, but we do it hourly. During that period, we make sure they understand that they can stop any time. They're not really married yet. It's sort of the dating period. But it really is getting to know each other and being comfortable and seeing if everybody's gonna work together well. We think we can work with anybody, but it's not always true to the people who are paying the bill. They may not like something. They should be able to leave.
